Reformed Roman Catholics
Nov 15th, 2007 by admin

It seems there are churches that now believe that the ’sola fide thing’ is no longer as essential as it used to be. But TULIP and the 7 sacraments and mass are not contradictory, at least that’s what Gary Johnson found out in calling the Desert Haven Reformed Church. Scott Clark reports:
Gary is a friendly fellow. He called them up to introduce himself. He “asked if they were part of a denomination” and the church secretary said“‘No, not presently, but there are a group of other churches like this one that may soon form a denomination. We are a Reformed Catholic church.’”
Gary asked her to repeat herself. She says, “‘Reformed Catholic.’”
“Exactly what is that?” Gary asks.
“‘We hold to the Five points of Calvinism but we also hold to seven sacraments and have Mass every Sunday morning.’”
“What about the solas, do you hold to the Reformation’s solas?
“I don’t think so, I am pretty sure we disagree with the sola fide thing.”
Scott Clark calls this Jansenism.
- Why I Am Not an Altar Boy (Part 1): An Introduction
- The Reformation - A Review
- Got Reformed?
- Why I Am Not an Altar Boy (Part 2): Justification by Faith ALONE
- Mormons: Christians?

Hey Sam, what constitutes “Reformed”? TULIP? TULIP + Sovereignty? TULIP + mode of baptism? TULIP + mode of baptism + church polity? Part of TULIP?
I’m digging TimK’s questions! I use the term “Reformed” quite often - and intend that it mean something along the lines of Luther or Calvin’s teaching - but have never gotten around to determining an actual definition of Reformed.
Reformed is sometimes an elusive word.
Ha ha, I’m stirring the pot here. With good reason. There is a popular, pastor of national prominence who likes to be considered Reformed but has disavowed the “L” in TULIP. There are those that say you aren’t Reformed unless you baptize infants. There are those who say you aren’t Reformed unless you adhere to a specific form of church government and if you don’t adhere, well then you are in a false church. admin/Sam wrote - “Reformed is sometimes an elusive word”; indeed, “Reformed is … elusive”. But “sometimes” may be “most often”!